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    Proposed Bill of Rights

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    Post by Sasami Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:34 pm

    This is the Bill of Rights that has been proposed to the staff. Most of it is pretty much set in stone at this point, but if you see any horrible errors, please comment. It's pretty basic right now, so we need to iron out the details.

    For example, on the Dojo part, we should define "quick responding". Should that mean responding within a couple days or a week?

    I am posting this here so that you guys can all voice your opinions and add to it, but don't turn it into a flame war and only post things that will actually be useful. The moment that this thread starts to go off topic, I'll have to close it.

    Shuten Dojo Members' Bill of Rights

    1 - Speech
    Members have the right to voice their opinions, assuming said opinions isn't against the profanity rules (PG-13 assumption,) harassment, or to purposefully offend/hurt someone (in an obvious fashion.)

    2. - Rule Enforcement
    Members have the right to have the rules enforced as they are supposed to be, as said in the rules.. Each punishment was decided based on the severity of the offense, so they're reasonable punishments.
    -Members are also able to enact a grandfather clause(see definitions for further info)

    3. - Staff
    Members have the right to have a mature staff, at least age 16(or has proven maturity enough to handle staff responsibilities), that lacks conflicts of interests, and is competent and fast to respond.

    4. - Forums
    Members have the right to a well maintained set of forums, that mostly lack spam, and general pleasantries, so as to attract more members to make a more lively forum.

    5. - Dojos
    Members have the right to quick responding and courteous Dojo members and leaders.

    Definitions will be placed here after they have been defined.


    Edits made:

    -Grand father clause
    -'lacks familial conflicts of interest' changed to 'lacks conflicts of intrest'
    -Added maturity exception to age requirement for staff
    -Added definition area
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    Post by Tobi Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:44 pm

    SO...will Ryu be fired?

    Also, could a Anti-Rasim thingy be made as well?

    Limit Bitching to Vents/Rants?
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    Post by Zeph Mon Jan 05, 2009 5:55 pm

    How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
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    Post by Prostiboots Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:25 pm

    Flying Spaghetti Monster wrote:SO...will Ryu be fired?

    Also, could a Anti-Rasim thingy be made as well?

    Limit Bitching to Vents/Rants?
    Racism falls under flaming (against the rules, already taken care of)

    Bitching goes under free speech immediately, if it's not against the rules, it's allowed.

    @Shade: That seems to be more of a staff decision in rules, not a member right.
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    Post by Sagehawk Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:28 pm

    The Dizzy Deviant wrote:How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
    they technicly have to make 50 relevent posts to be a recrute... thats what we did before anyways
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    Post by Tobi Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:29 pm

    Yes, But if I spend all my free time saying how I should be a mod, how it's not fair, ect...

    That should be stopped.

    Move it to vent/rants, and LIMIT it.
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    Post by Prostiboots Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:32 pm

    God wrote:
    The Dizzy Deviant wrote:How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
    they technicly have to make 50 relevent posts to be a recrute... thats what we did before anyways
    It was 15 last time I checked.

    O_O
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    Post by Sasami Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:37 pm

    Poodle Hat wrote:
    God wrote:
    The Dizzy Deviant wrote:How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
    they technicly have to make 50 relevent posts to be a recrute... thats what we did before anyways
    It was 15 last time I checked.

    O_O

    I thought it was 15, too XD. That's what it was on Aikou, I thought.
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    Post by Prostiboots Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:38 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Poodle Hat wrote:
    God wrote:
    The Dizzy Deviant wrote:How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
    they technicly have to make 50 relevent posts to be a recrute... thats what we did before anyways
    It was 15 last time I checked.

    O_O

    I thought it was 15, too XD. That's what it was on Aikou, I thought.
    That's what it was in last year's recruitment contest!

    XD
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    Post by Sagehawk Mon Jan 05, 2009 6:39 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Poodle Hat wrote:
    God wrote:
    The Dizzy Deviant wrote:How 'bout a Recruit rule? That the recruits have to stay for a certain amount of time, and stay active and post? Otherwise they've been recruited and can just leave.
    they technicly have to make 50 relevent posts to be a recrute... thats what we did before anyways
    It was 15 last time I checked.

    O_O

    I thought it was 15, too XD. That's what it was on Aikou, I thought.
    well for this it should be 50
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    Post by Tobi Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:13 pm

    No, have it be 25.

    Members from Akiou-Old members, powerful members, don't have that many posts on this site.
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    Post by Sasami Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:29 pm

    We could compromise and go with 40? XD
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    Post by Sagehawk Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:30 pm

    40 is good
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    Post by Tobi Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:32 pm

    Yes.

    30 is better.

    I don't recruit many people, so meh, doesn't matter to me.
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    Post by Sagehawk Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:32 pm

    Tuxedo Mask wrote:Yes.

    30 is better.

    I don't recruit many people, so meh, doesn't matter to me.
    then why are you the only one debating this?
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    Post by Tobi Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:35 pm

    I want to debat.

    Oh wait, I GOT AN IDEA.

    (If I do recrut, I think 30 would be fair.

    15 + 50 = 65. Divide by 2, and you get 32 point something

    So...30 would be best, right?
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    Post by Sasami Mon Jan 05, 2009 7:52 pm

    Tuxedo Mask wrote:I want to debat.

    Oh wait, I GOT AN IDEA.

    (If I do recrut, I think 30 would be fair.

    15 + 50 = 65. Divide by 2, and you get 32 point something

    So...30 would be best, right?

    ...

    No.

    After all...I could just do this...

    50 divided by 2 is 25. 25 plus 15 is 40.

    See the problem? :p
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    Post by Prostiboots Mon Jan 05, 2009 8:05 pm

    Sasami wrote:
    Tuxedo Mask wrote:I want to debat.

    Oh wait, I GOT AN IDEA.

    (If I do recrut, I think 30 would be fair.

    15 + 50 = 65. Divide by 2, and you get 32 point something

    So...30 would be best, right?

    ...

    No.

    After all...I could just do this...

    50 divided by 2 is 25. 25 plus 15 is 40.

    See the problem? :p
    I've got the best one!

    15 divided by two is 7.5 (round up to Cool plus 50 is 58!

    =D
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    Post by Sasami Tue Jan 06, 2009 3:10 pm

    Back on topic, how long should a dojo member or leader be able to remain inactive before being fired?

    And how should we define "inactive"?
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    Post by Prostiboots Tue Jan 06, 2009 6:43 pm

    Well, inactivity would have to be defined by separate things.

    Say, they fail to respond to a challenge within 48 hours without any reason why. That'd be inactive for their purpose of being a dojo member/sensei, and should get a warning.

    If they fail to respond within a week without reason, then they should be fired.


    Also, general activity, like being on at least a couple times a week, and all that.
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    Post by Zenith Tue Jan 06, 2009 7:47 pm

    A week for a warning. Two days is a /tad/ extreme. Two weeks for a firing.
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    Post by Sagehawk Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:05 am

    I have edited the bill of rights so please go re-read and state any problems or disagreements here.
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    Post by Prostiboots Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:26 am

    My biggest problem is sudden edits without any discussion concerning them on the thread.

    If you have a point to make, make it here, as that what this is for.

    Also, the point of the Grandfather Clause in the rule enforcement area eludes me.
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    Post by Sagehawk Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:43 am

    THIS IS A DRAFT IT IS STILL EDITABLE


    this means until this is put in the rules area... edits will be made OVER AND OVER AND OVER

    nothing is solid.... it was edited TO DISCUSS IT this is what we are doing... how many times do i have to tell you PP?

    Notes were even made at the bottom so if changes were not agreed apon they could be easily switched back.
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    Post by Prostiboots Wed Jan 07, 2009 1:46 am

    Sagehawk wrote:THIS IS A DRAFT IT IS STILL EDITABLE


    this means until this is put in the rules area... edits will be made OVER AND OVER AND OVER

    nothing is solid.... it was edited TO DISCUSS IT this is what we are doing... how many times do i have to tell you PP?

    Notes were even made at the bottom so if changes were not agreed apon they could be easily switched back.
    Yeah, but.

    Where's the disucssion.

    Almost none of the prior discussion has a thing to do with the edits.

    I don't see the discussion, where is it?

    Tell me, because wherever it is, it's supposed to be here, not in the magical land of "I'mnotdoinitriteasia"

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